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My Solution To The Michigan/Florida Mess

Here’s my proposal for how Democrats should resolve the mess of how to include delegates from Michigan and Florida at the National Convention.

Each state should be penalized 20% of its delegates for breaking the rules. 

Michigan should simply re-vote since Barack Obama was not on the ballot when that state held its primary.

For Florida, the primary already conducted should count for half of awarded delegates. A caucus should be held for the other half.

There you have it.

Just that simple!     

Please click here for a history of the Florida Primary.

March 9, 2008 - Posted by | Campaign 2008, Politics | , , , , ,

11 Comments »

  1. Another method of resolving the Michigan/Florida mess that would be quite fair would be:

    – Since Michigan willfully broke the rules, either their delagates shouldn’t count or they should be split evenly. An even split is the likely outcome of a revote anyway, so this resolution offers the added bonus of being free.

    – Since Florida Democrats did not willfully break the rules and it was the Republican State legislature that steamrolled this legislation through, the exisitng Florida primary results should stand. In addition to being free, this resolution offers the added bonus of finally refusing to accept Florida Republicans screwing with elections.

    Comment by Sophie | March 9, 2008

  2. Sophie–In Michigan, something closer to what you’re saying was my first thought, but I feel in the end we have to be as inclusive as possible.

    As for Florida, Mr. Obama did not campaign there. A caucus would allow him to give Florida a more fair shot.

    Thanks for the comment.

    Comment by Neil Aquino | March 9, 2008

  3. they should revote and let the peoples voice be heard. at the same time the voters should organize and get the people out of office that created this mess. In ohio they ran out of paper ballots in some locations. the voting process is so tainted and it needs to be fixed. caucus’ are a joke and should be discontinued, hats, bells, its goofy and dated.

    Comment by bill brady | March 9, 2008

  4. I agree that for 2012 the caucus process should be ended. We’ve reached a point where things must be as inclusive as possible. In the case of Florida this year, I support a caucus in this unique case.

    Comment by Neil Aquino | March 9, 2008

  5. Neil — Nobody campaigned in Florida and everyone was on the ballot, so whatever it was, it was.

    Bill — I don’t care for the caucus process either. I have to admit, this was my first year I actually learned what they are. They don’t sound particularly democratic to me; they seem more like marketing focus groups. My preference is to take it directly to the people in a primary. There are plenty of other areas in our political process that get decided by a representational segment.

    That all being said, I don’t like the idea of spending more money. If the states pay, that means there are real people losing their tax dollars (and the services those were supposed to deliver). If the candidates pay (or the party), that’s less money we have for the general.

    It’s not an easy thing, but I’d like the solution to be fair and free. In fact, that’s exactly what I want my country to be: fair and free!

    Comment by Sophie | March 9, 2008

  6. Sophie–Thanks for these comments. As I recall, Mrs. Clinton did make some effort in Florida while Mr. Obama did not. I want it to be fair. The fair part is more important than the free part in my view.

    Comment by Neil Aquino | March 10, 2008

  7. I feel very strongly that they need to close primaries in the future. One reason they ran out of ballots in Ohio is that many Republicans requested Democratic ballots so they could vote for Hillary Clinton and keep the fight alive. In traditionally Republican Clermont County, there are 14,000 registered Democrats but 33,000 people requested Democratic ballots. That’s just not right.

    I also think Michigan and Florida should not be included. They broke the rules, and exclusion is their punishment.

    Comment by Julie | March 10, 2008

  8. Julie—I agree with you that primaries should be closed. The process should not be so easily messed with by supporters of either party.

    On your other point, I feel that fully excluding Michigan and Florida punishes the rank-and-file who hand no had in making this mess.

    Comment by Neil Aquino | March 11, 2008

  9. Let the people speak!

    Comment by Newton | March 11, 2008

  10. ohio is the worse example of a states voting regulations. they also ran out of ballots because of huge turnouts in black neighborhoods for obama, blackwell was a disgrace and his damage will take years to fix. the republicans of clermont dont care about hillary just the white sheets they hide under. ohio is the asspit of our country.

    Comment by bill brady | March 12, 2008

  11. If only Ohio was the worst state.

    Comment by Neil Aquino | March 12, 2008


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