Texas Liberal

All People Matter

I Can’t Muster Much Anger At Barry Bonds After A Youth Spent With Pete Rose

Texas Liberal is sorry to post about sports. Sports get too much attention in our society. Still, because I am a hypocrite, here is a baseball post.

I’ll be attending the San Francisco Giants/Houston Astros game tomorrow night in Houston. Barry Bonds of the Giants has been booed by Houston fans each time he has come to bat for the past two days.

I won’t be one of the people booing Mr. Bonds tomorrow. I lived in Cincinnati for 18 years and for much of that time I was subjected to Pete Rose. I don’t know what Mr. Bonds has done or not done, but he can’t be much worse than Pete Rose.

Mr. Rose bet on his team and is a convicted tax cheat.

Mr. Rose was from the West Side of Cincinnati. While it is not so much the case anymore, the West Side of Cincinnati was for many years the more law-and-order part of town.

I always felt that many of Mr. Rose’s most vocal supporters were some the same people who had been hostile to black Hall-Of-Famer Frank Robinson during his time in a Cincinnati uniform in the 1960’s.

A solid book about Mr. Rose is Hustle–The Myth, Life And Lies Of Pete Rose by Michael Sokolove.

May 17, 2007 - Posted by | Books, Cincinnati, Lousy People


  1. Great town, Cincy.

    We visited a couple of years ago in August — stayed downtown at the Netherland, walked over to Great American and watched a game, ate at the riverfront, took in the Underground Museum.

    Reds HOF was very cool. Loved the Big Red Machine.

    I wanted to catch Barry on this last visit to Houston, but It looks like I’ll just have to watch him on TV.

    Comment by PDiddie | May 17, 2007

  2. Charlie Hustle is a creep

    Comment by george | May 17, 2007

  3. The West Side of Cincinnati was blue collar working people who had cops and firefighters as neighbors. Of course it was also very very Catholic and say what you want about Catholics but they do have a strong respect for a hierarchy of power.
    A lot of workaday union types there back then. Of course they were also the definition of Reagan Democrats who stopped listening to their unions for that election and since.
    (Doesn’t the mafia also do fairly well in working class neighborhoods?) Charlie Hustle worked hard and never put on airs that he was a saint or better than the neighborhood. They liked that.
    Kind of a “Sure, he bet on baseball. Never said he wouldn’t” attitude when it comes to their support of Pete Rose.

    Comment by carsick | May 17, 2007

  4. I favor Pete for the HOF. He may be a creep, but he’s a creep with the most hits in baseball.

    Comment by PDiddie | May 17, 2007

  5. Carsick–Pete did not respect the best values of the place he was from. It took some time but those folks, now living farther and farther from downtown, figured it out.

    Diddie–He knew the rules about betting on baseball. And then he never had the brains to redeem himself and never took any advice about how to redeem himself.

    Comment by neilaquino | May 17, 2007

  6. I agree with PDiddie above. The man with the most career hits belongs in the Hall. If they kicked out all of the “creeps” that are in there now, the place would only be about one-third of its present size.

    Now, if MLB wants to keep him of organized baseball for the betting on games, fine.

    Comment by JMTBOOMER | May 18, 2007

  7. Going to see Sammy Sosa tonight. I won’t be booing him either.

    Comment by neilaquino | May 19, 2007

Leave a Reply

Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in:

WordPress.com Logo

You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. Log Out /  Change )

Google photo

You are commenting using your Google account. Log Out /  Change )

Twitter picture

You are commenting using your Twitter account. Log Out /  Change )

Facebook photo

You are commenting using your Facebook account. Log Out /  Change )

Connecting to %s

%d bloggers like this: