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Trayvon Martin Case Requires Justice

I want to add my voice to those concerned about the killing of 17 year old Trayvon Martin in Sanford, Florida.

(Above–Trayvon Martin)

From what I have heard and read, it appears that this young person was shot and killed for the offense of walking while black or being outside while black.

He also seems to have been killed because of someone else’s improper sense of entitlement and impunity.

Hopefully the so-called  justice system will further investigate this matter, and a fair trial will be held for George Zimmerman. Mr. Zimmerman is the man alleged by many to have shot and killed Mr. Martin.

Here is an overview of the Trayvon Martin case from ABC News. 

This case has brought to needed attention the ongoing and seemingly never-ending fact in our nation that you can kill black people and get off easy for doing so.

Also, the so-called “stand your ground”  law in Florida seems to be first of all about shooting people. 

We are a nation that often seems crazed with violence, and where some lives appear to have less value than other lives.

We need to work for justice and decent treatment of all people in our own lives and in our society as a whole.

The work of freedom and justice is up to each of us.

My friend Errington Thompson at Where’s The Outrage has been posting about the Trayvon Martin issue  for a number of days now.  Errington has also been writing usefully about race in America in recent days. Please check out his blog. 

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March 22, 2012 - Posted by | Uncategorized | , , , , ,

10 Comments »

  1. I know the local police in Sanford have cited Stand your ground as a possible reason Zimmerman has not been arrested yet, but I’m not sure this has been confirmed by anyone higher up. It does seem like it might be playing a big role here.

    But should it? It seems to me that Trayvon Martin should also have some rights under Stand Your Ground. Now almost all the evidence indicates that Martin did absolutely nothing threatening at all. But suppose Martin did initiate a physical altercation with Zimmerman (and remember, I don’t think this happened)? Would not Martin have been justified in doing so under the SYG law? After all, Zimmerman followed Martin for two and a half blocks and got out of his car to confront Martin who had by that point retreated up next to the houses. That seems to me like Martin had a basis for reasonably believing he was in danger. Doesn’t SYG cut two ways?

    But of course what really happened is that a sad paranoid frightened bully stalked killed a victim.

    Comment by bacopa | March 22, 2012

  2. I don’t know how far Treyvon could have gotten with a stand your ground defense. It seems that shooting people such as him is an intent of the law.

    Just imagine if Florida had laws meant to mitigate violence instead of laws to encourage it.

    Comment by Neil Aquino | March 23, 2012

  3. Now almost all the evidence indicates that Martin did absolutely nothing threatening at all.

    The picture that’s emerging sure looks like that of a trigger-happy wannabe cop. Then again, he was somehow injured in the incident.

    Comment by Matt Bramanti | March 23, 2012

  4. The entire incident seems to have been avoidable. Also, the police told Mr. Zimmerman he did not need to follow the kid. That Mr. Zimmerman was injured tells me nothing.

    Comment by Neil Aquino | March 23, 2012

  5. I think there’s a strong possibility that Zimmerman’s injury is self inflicted. Probably just whacked his arm on the hood of his vehicle a couple of times.

    Comment by bacopa | March 24, 2012

  6. “I think there’s a strong possibility that Zimmerman’s injury is self inflicted. Probably just whacked his arm on the hood of his vehicle a couple of times.”

    Wait, his arm was injured too? Where did you read that? I was referring to the wounds on his face and the back of his head.

    (You made it up.)

    Comment by Matt Bramanti | March 24, 2012

  7. Well, then we know it’s fake. Most common injury in a fight is bruising on the left arm. You can be completely untrained in fighting a right handed person will naturally narrow their profile and block with their left arm. Did anyone check for Zimmerman’s fingernails for his own skin underneath them? Has Zimmerman been to a doctor to document these injuries?

    And besides, as I stated above, even if Martin and Zimmerman did scuffle, Martin had every right to do so under the Stand Your Ground law. He was stalked and confronted.

    Comment by bacopa | March 25, 2012

  8. “Well, then we know it’s fake”

    His head wound was fake? Fake as in self-inflicted, or fake as in he used ketchup? Please show your work.

    Comment by Matt Bramanti | March 26, 2012

  9. Show my work? You show your work. I was just speculating on your completely unfounded assertions that there was a scuffle, and asserted that if there was a scuffle or Zimmerman was competently trying to simulate a scuffle and was right handed he would have injuries to his left arm more than anywhere else.

    The police at the scene were pretty much convinced this was a stalk and kill. The 911 tapes sound like a stalk and kill. The fact that Zimmerman had called 911 47 times makes him sounded unbalanced. Listen to the recordings. Zimmerman was totally freaked over almost nothing.

    And you seem like a guy into self defense. So what if YOU were followed a couple of blocks by a dude in a car who then got out to confront you. I actually had this happen near Richmond and Edloe. I faked them out using the “don’t follow the script” defense But then they got back in their car and followed me. I was scared shitless and ducked through a parking garage and used a dumpster and electrical conduit to climb a wall I never thought I could climb. I grabbed a wooden stake along the way. My plan was to beat them with the stake if they climbed up after me. They came into the alley, saw the wall, and drove away to get drunk at the Velvet Elvis.

    Now keep in mind I brought this upon myself. They shouted a comment at me as I walked down the street and I responded by sprinting to the corner and trying to bust their taillights as they turned in to the Velvet Elvis. I was fed the fuck up with pedestrian harassment. Stupid, I know.

    But none of this stupidity seems to have happened in the Martin case. And as I said above, if Martin really did attack Zimmerman, and there’s no evidence he did, Martin himself would have been justified by the SYG law and Zimmerman, who had called 911 and been specifically instructed not to follow Martin, was clearly the aggressor in this case.

    Comment by bacopa | March 30, 2012

  10. Show my work? You show your work. I was just speculating on your completely unfounded assertions that there was a scuffle, and asserted that if there was a scuffle or Zimmerman was competently trying to simulate a scuffle and was right handed he would have injuries to his left arm more than anywhere else.

    They’re not unfounded. They’re founded on the written report of Officer Timothy Smith, which indicated injuries to Zimmerman, and the word (as reported in the press) of witnesses.

    The police at the scene were pretty much convinced this was a stalk and kill.

    Which officer — Ayala or Smith? Or both? We’re talking about very specific things here, so let’s be specific.

    That’s a great story, and I’m glad it ended safely before you could hurt anybody or destroy anything. What’d they holler, anyway? Also, it’s the Velvet Melvin.

    But you never answered my question. You said Zimmerman’s face and head wounds were “fake.” To me, that could mean one of these things:

    1. They were literally simulated injuries. He used fake blood to fool the cops into thinking he was hurt.

    2. They were self-inflicted. He smashed his own face and the back of his own head to create the illusion that he’d been attacked.

    3. Officer Smith thought he saw injuries on Zimmerman, but it was an honest mistake. Or

    4. Officer Smith fabricated the injuries and wrote up a false report.

    All of those things seem pretty unlikely. Since you’re waffling between “Trayvon didn’t do anything” and “Zimmerman had it coming,” I suggest you go with the latter argument.

    Comment by Matt Bramanti | March 30, 2012


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